"2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered" (2fast2furiousfc3s) 01/25/2019 at 15:45 • Filed to: None

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Future Heap Owner > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 15:49

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Any alternative suggestions?

AestheticsInMotion > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 15:51

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“ Overpriced due to popularity”

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > AestheticsInMotion 01/25/2019 at 16:00

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So you don’t see 4000$ rust heap nas in your area? I’ve talk to a few oppos about this, the Miata isn’t that cheap anymore, most of them are junk with quite a price tag.

Being popular shouldn't artificially raise the price of a car that is mostly found is terrible condition or hooned to near death.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:01

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AestheticsInMotion > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:08

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Not what I’m saying. NA Miatas have been going up in value for the last few years now, to the point where nice l ow-mileage ones are 5 figure cars, and you’re unlikely to find a well-sorted out example for $3000 anymore.

But “overpriced due to popularity” is a strange grouping of words. It should be “priced due to popularity”. It’s a popular enthusiast car loved by many and as such is raising in value, just like every other popular enthusiast car has since forever. It’s worth what people will pay, and that number is trending upward after bottoming out the depreciation curve a few years ago. It will likely keep going up.

The one other factor that people don’t always recognize is the hardtop economy. When you can get an almost guaranteed $1500 nowadays just for a well-maintained h ardtop—a fairly common factory option—that’s going to skew prices quite a bit.

NB’s are an incredible value right now though, and a much better track car for 99% of people.

For Sweden > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:08

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sm70- why not Duesenberg? > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:08

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Being popular shouldn’t artificially raise the price of a car that is mostly found is terrible condition or hooned to near death.

...you don’t really have a firm grasp of how supply and demand works, do you?

dogisbadob > Future Heap Owner 01/25/2019 at 16:10

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AestheticsInMotion > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:12

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Oh and answering your second part, “mostly found in terrible condition or hooned to near death” is blatantly untrue. Look 'em up in any major city and you'll find tons of great condition NA's along with the beaters. I should know, I check nationwide every week for a mint Sunburst yellow NA! 

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 01/25/2019 at 16:12

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Good point there....

But....

Its more of my opinion on it’s value as if other people believe their trash is worth 4k that’s fine, im just making the point that the trash is not worth 4k.

But yeah, your right it’s supply and demand.

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > AestheticsInMotion 01/25/2019 at 16:14

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Ill adm it it’s a strange grouping of words, I didn’t make the mem e, just agree with it.

Its at the point now where I don't believe the car is anywhere near a good value as it used to be,I'm at the point where buying an NA Miata is mostly a bad value compared to cars we see everyday falling lower and lower

AestheticsInMotion > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:25

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Like what? Genuinely curious.

Miata pros are that it’s incredibly cheap to maintain, the 1.8 engines will run forever even if you’re driving them hard , cheap to upgrade for those getting into racing, super simple to work on, fantastic transmission, rwd, super lightweight .

I’m trying to think of good competitors in the $3500-6000 range that gets you a nice NA Miata and I’m coming up short. Civic Si’s and other Hondas all have the same if not worse issue of being beat-to-shit, not to mention the car-jacking issue . GT86/BRZ/Abarth aren’t in that price range yet unfortunately . Older Gti? Reliability woes. 90's/early 2000's domestic muscle? Pricey consumables, more of a straight-line segment unless you’re buying a Terminator or another top-teir which brings the price waaaaay past NA Miatas. The old Nissans are impossible to find nowadays and stupid expensive when a non-drifted one does show up. E46 and E39 are solid values but way more expensive to run, not simple, not light, and just not driver-focused in the same way..... I'm racking my brain here. Seems like the best reason not to pay for an NA is because you can get an 02-03 NB for less money that's a better performer in every way. 

for Michigan > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:26

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That seems entirely unfair. We’re talking about a price bracket that includes similarly abused V6 New Edge Mustangs, 944's, and base model E46's.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 16:28

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You can still find plenty of decent deals on an N A... if you’re out looking for a fully-loaded one with low miles , then you’re kind of missing the point of buying a basic, 25-year old RWD convertible.

AestheticsInMotion > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/25/2019 at 16:41

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Speaking of which.... You’ve got driveway space right

https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/d/olympia-1990-mazda-miata/6800001742.html

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/25/2019 at 16:51

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I mean personally I’m not looking for one, but in my area Miata deals like have never existed.

Taljing to some other oppos I guess it just depends on area and availability and all that

Future Heap Owner > dogisbadob 01/25/2019 at 17:04

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But not convetible!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered 01/25/2019 at 17:17

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Don’t get me wrong. Plenty out there that are asking ridiculous money.

Chuckles > AestheticsInMotion 01/25/2019 at 17:25

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I'm still trying to figure out a fair price for my 94 should I decide to sell it, but nobody buys a convertible in PA in January anyway.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > AestheticsInMotion 01/25/2019 at 17:41

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Oh? How serious are you? I think there is one for sale in the next neighborhood here in North Carolina, although I haven’t checked on it’s condition . . .

AestheticsInMotion > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 01/25/2019 at 17:47

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Not serious.

Unless a good one at a good price appears, in which case... Lord help me. My HOA is going to run me out of the area 

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > AestheticsInMotion 01/25/2019 at 17:55

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OK. I’ve been resisting stopping to talk with the owner, and if you were interested that could have been enough reason. But I’ll be easily able to resist now. If I’m going to do something unnecessary, it will more likely be a C5 Z06, but I’ve become very, very slightly more open to the idea of an unnecessary Miata.

dogisbadob > Future Heap Owner 01/25/2019 at 17:58

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But it does have a big sunroof!

OK, fine :p

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/25/2019 at 21:50

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Yeah, I guess I didn't realize there were any good Miata markets left, mine has been awful for years

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > AestheticsInMotion 01/26/2019 at 19:07

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I stopped and looked at the yellow Miata today. It’s an NB and . . . a n automatic. I didn’t knock on the door or call the number as a result .

AestheticsInMotion > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 01/26/2019 at 19:45

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Wow. That is gorgeous. Now I'm curious... Although the auto would need to go

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > AestheticsInMotion 01/26/2019 at 19:58

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It looks to be in good shape, aside from fading color on the sill cladding. Top look ed good. No chi pping on the air dam.   I did a google search on the phone number, but didn’t find an ad.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > dogisbadob 02/03/2019 at 00:25

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Seek help